[Tokon]

I have a lovely husky puppy. However my boyfriend thinks I should get him fixed. I can understand it, he's very hyper and is trying to be more dom then my boyfriend's room mate. My question is will it really calm him down? Or is it just cause he's a puppy? I mean I know it will calm him down some but will it be enough to notice when he's still a puppy?

[Hiway]

Training & Activity will help in this situation.

Daily obedience training and new activities such as 'Agility training' will keep the puppy occupied and use up that aboundence of energy.

Removing his nuts will take away a part of his character that will never come back! (talking about hormones)
Why try to "fix" something that isn't broken???

[Tokon]

I know but it's hard to do those things because I'm in the process of getting out of the Army and can only be there for my dog on the weekends. (Long story) He has just started puppy class (everyone in the house goes) and I run him on the weekends when I visit. But because I can't work with him daily he's getting out of hand with other people and dogs he lives with and the people are conviced that fixing him will fix he's "behavior".

It's getting harder to say no because Koda (my husky) is being a real ass hole. Last night he decided to show who's boss my peeing all over my bf's roomie. I suppose it's better them Koda peeing on HIM but still. I'm working on it but it's hard to only on the weekends and my boyfriend and his room mate don't believe that you have to be a bit rough with Koda to get him to respect you.

[Yukihyou]

Just keep in mind that mutilating a young pup will have consequences for the rest of his life. Dogs without testicles are generally worse off health wise than those with them. Hormones produced there are used for all kinds of important stuff in a developing organism.

Shame you've got a dog before you can actually take proper care of it.

[Tokon]

Yukihyou, on 17 January 2010 - 11:02 AM, said:

Shame you've got a dog before you can actually take proper care of it.

Before this gets to far I was able to take care of him but my house situation fell apart after my room mates fucked me over very good leaving me with a bill I can't get out of. I'd love to keep my puppy with me but I have to live with what I have ya know?

I've seen websites that say that neutering is a good thing or it doesn't matter or it's hurtful. Is there a site that is a good place for answers or does someone have personal expenece?

[Bernard]

First, I developed a policy long before there was any such thing as the internet and that policy has served me well for all of that time. I will not do anything to any companion animal that I would not do to myself. Would you have yourself neutered to relieve anxiety?

Second, it's way too soon. Check out the various "largest dog" discussions to see the results of pediatric neutering. Gibson, the former Guinness Record holder is a great example. He died at the ripe old age of 7 from cancer.

Third, Puppy = hyper. Husky = hyper. Husky Puppy = superhyper. Castrating him will not change his DNA one iota. He'll still be young and still be a Husky.

What will slow him down (besides age) is warmer weather. With a full coat in summer heat, he will spend a lot of time laying down in the shade.

Bernard

[kodasgirl]

I and my mate own a total of 2 female huskys and a male alaskan malamute. His girl is VERY well trained, though my two girls that I own, including one that i had previously, they were all EXTREMELY active. In the little time they see my partner he knows how to straighten them out. You need to have a VERY firm hand and the time to deal with an active dog, its in their nature.

Fixing is actually helpful it does have its good and bad points, it would mean less prostate problems and a lower risk of cancer.

[Bernard]

kodasgirl, on 17 January 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

Fixing is actually helpful it does have its good and bad points, it would mean less prostate problems and a lower risk of cancer.

You need to be very careful to differentiate propaganda and medical fact.

Yes, a dog without testicles will never have testicular cancer. But his chance of having other cancers rises dramatically.

Carefully consider how evolution works. Any part that shortened an individual's life would tend to be eliminated or modified over time.

Bernard

[Blitz]

Statistics show that canines have the same percentage of risk of testicular cancer as humans.
Would you get yourself castrated to avoid the chance of getting testicular cancer?

:angry2:

I'm almost thinking this post of Token is a Troll post.
What Zoophile would this to their dog, unless it was to save their life(cancer or incurable infection etc)
You might as well get his nail beds removed, teeth filed down or removed, electrolysis to remove all his hair, and remove his vocal chords.
This way you have all your bases covered, he won't put scratches in your floor or furniture, won't dig holes, won't chew on anything or hurt anyone if they bite them, won't shed in your house, and won't bother the neighbors with his barking.
Frankly I think you should find your husky puppy a really good home with a friend that knows a bit more about dogs, and what it's going to take to own one.
If you're worried about his behavior and if he's going to be too hyper, you obviously haven't learned anything about the breed, and aren't prepared to deal with any pet in the first place! :blowup:

[Tokon]

Blitz, on 18 January 2010 - 01:52 AM, said:

Statistics show that canines have the same percentage of risk of testicular cancer as humans.
Would you get yourself castrated to avoid the chance of getting testicular cancer?

:angry2:

I'm almost thinking this post of Token is a Troll post.
What Zoophile would this to their dog, unless it was to save their life(cancer or incurable infection etc)
You might as well get his nail beds removed, teeth filed down or removed, electrolysis to remove all his hair, and remove his vocal chords.
This way you have all your bases covered, he won't put scratches in your floor or furniture, won't dig holes, won't chew on anything or hurt anyone if they bite them, won't shed in your house, and won't bother the neighbors with his barking.
Frankly I think you should find your husky puppy a really good home with a friend that knows a bit more about dogs, and what it's going to take to own one.
If you're worried about his behavior and if he's going to be too hyper, you obviously haven't learned anything about the breed, and aren't prepared to deal with any pet in the first place! :blowup:

Uncalled for. This is a major issue with the house he has to live in till I can get fully out of the Army. I was asking for opinions. I don't want to get him fixed. I did a lot of work to get ready for a husky. I read up on them, I got toys and a plan. My plan went to shit when my so called friends bailed on me and left me hanging with all the bills for the house. This is an issue cause my boyfriend and his room mate don't know what huskies are like and weren't ready and because of how fast I had to get my dog out of the house I couldn't get them ready. I'm up here visiting every weekend I can and am working with my dog and them. I was simply asking a question because all the info on the web is conflicted and broken.

I'm sorry you misunderstood and looking back I didn't explain my position very well. But that really uncalled for.

[Hiway]

I agree with you Tokon, that was a heavy handed reply... but as you said, your information to begin with was a little lacking in detail.
I'm sure you realise you have very limited options here... and Nuetering him ISN'T one of them!

I'd begin with instilling in the other members of the household the the importance of correct training and handling of the pup and then decide wether they're up to the task or not. Have you provided them with Breed Info so that they can learn about owning / training / taking care of a Husky Pup? Do they WANT to learn...?

Two days per week (if that) to take care of him correctly while the rest of the week the dog is allowed to do what it wants, will only result in upset & heartache when the dog is forced out because of uncontrollable behaviour!

I understand your situation - a little - but you must make a decision soon!

Good Luck !

[Bernard]

Tokon, on 21 January 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

I'm sorry you misunderstood and looking back I didn't explain my position very well. But that really uncalled for.

I understood that you got pushed into a situation and are looking for help getting out of it.

I also understand that life always has its up and downs. After you've been around a while, you notice that all things pass in their time. Taking your mate for all the ups and downs is an admirable thing. It's much easier to just walk away than to work to keep things together.

So yes, that was uncalled for.

Bernard

[VulpesVulpes]

Husky pups are known to be hyper active which have NO relationship with hormones. Actually when his balls make more hormones (when he matures) he would become a lot calmer.
Once I visited a friend with a 6-month male husky, the husky chased me over again and again around the room. A year later (the husky isn't fixed) he always lie on the floor and don't move much without the owner's order.

[dogcockz1]

Just chop one bollock off and see if he improves... ;)

( no, don't. I wasn't being serious! )

D :cool:

[Tokon]

I'd like to thank everyone for the helpful advise you gave. I'll keep trying to tell my boyfriend and his roomie that my husky is still a puppy and husky's are normally hyper. I would like to note that after three weeks of training Koda has improved in a lot of ways. He's not hyper peeing as much and he's paying attention better to what he's told to do. I'm doing my best to run/walk him when I come down to visit to help get rid of some of the energy though I might have to upgrade to roller blades so he gets more of a work out. hehe

[Dirtbiker2K]

Bernard, on 18 January 2010 - 04:28 AM, said:

You need to be very careful to differentiate propaganda and medical fact.

Yes, a dog without testicles will never have testicular cancer. But his chance of having other cancers rises dramatically.



Bernard

Sorry but that is not true at all about it dramatically increasing the chances of other cancers.

The only fact is neutering will remove the risk of testicular cancer. But there are alot of other advantages in neutering for the average owner.

[Bernard]

Dirtbiker2K, on 06 February 2010 - 03:46 PM, said:

Sorry but that is not true at all about it dramatically increasing the chances of other cancers.

The only fact is neutering will remove the risk of testicular cancer. But there are alot of other advantages in neutering for the average owner.

Below is one of the reasons I say "differentiate between propaganda and fact".

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[Dirtbiker2K]

Bernard, on 07 February 2010 - 01:56 AM, said:

Below is one of the reasons I say "differentiate between propaganda and fact".

Yes have read that before. Is full of maybe's and possiblies and also states that it is not fully understood.


I do think that neutering at a young age is always going to be bad though.



And there is much more in the neutering drive than just medical reasons. Alot of it is due to irresponsible owners and the asscociated problems this brings. I've seen quite a few of these problems and they are not nice. And that is not propaganda.

Its to easy for zoo's to go on and on about how bad spay neuter laws are and most seem to forget the deeper reasons and issues that arise from so many people having intact dogs.

DB

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[Bernard]

Dirtbiker2K, on 07 February 2010 - 05:07 AM, said:

Yes have read that before. Is full of maybe's and possiblies and also states that it is not fully understood.


I do think that neutering at a young age is always going to be bad though.



And there is much more in the neutering drive than just medical reasons. Alot of it is due to irresponsible owners and the asscociated problems this brings. I've seen quite a few of these problems and they are not nice. And that is not propaganda.

Its to easy for zoo's to go on and on about how bad spay neuter laws are and most seem to forget the deeper reasons and issues that arise from so many people having intact dogs.

DB

Yes, but almost all neuter-nazi responses to those problems are propaganda or worse. Why do I say that? Because everything from law to logic goes out the window in pursuit holy grail of canine ZPG.

I define insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. That is the very soul of the speuter movement. They seem to believe that if they just believe in speuter hard enough, some day the problem will get better, not worse.

Go to any shelter or vet and tell them you want your dog vasectomised instead of castrated. Watched what happens. It doesn't matter that your dog will be just as sterilized. It doesn't matter that the secondary effects of your dog displacing fertile breeders will actually prevent more puppies than a simple castration (google "screwworm eradication" for proof), you will be refused.

I have no issues with the goal, but I know from hard experience that refusing to examine your methods is a sure way to fail at that goal.

Bernard

[burro1989]

Bernard, on 06 February 2010 - 06:56 PM, said:

Below is one of the reasons I say "differentiate between propaganda and fact".

Great article Bernard! I would like to print this article and rub it against those neuter nazi's faces! But anyway from the looks of it, it looks like that neutering causes more harm than good, for me I'll give my dog a vasectomy and that's it, I'll never mutilate my friend, God made him that way so why mess with it my disfiguring him to our convience? That's the point people will carve up their dogs that they love so much for their convience, what's the definition of really loving their dog? By dealing with every aspect of the animal, if they really love their dog they'll go through the ups and downs and not cut their way out of it.